The CUInsight Experience
The CUInsight Experience podcast is hosted by Randy Smith, co-founder of CUInsight.com, and co-hosted by Jill Nowacki, founder, president, and CEO of Humanidei. In each episode, they engage in wide-ranging conversations about credit unions, leadership lessons, and life. Join them as they dive deep into topics that help us become better leaders and strengthen our movement, uncovering valuable insights that we can all learn from.
The CUInsight Experience
Paradox with Greg Michlig (#210)
“...You establish trust with your team by being... willing to be vulnerable enough to, as a leader... to say... that's something that I hadn't thought about. That is an expertise that I don't have right now.” - Greg Michlig
Welcome to episode 210 of The CUInsight Experience podcast with your hosts, Randy Smith, co-founder of CUInsight.com, and Jill Nowacki, President and CEO of Humanidei.
This episode is sponsored by Alacriti—a leading payments fintech helping credit unions compete with challenger banks and digital wallets. Alacriti delivers seamless, real-time money movement experiences for loan payments, A2A transfers, digital disbursements, and bill pay. With a single, cloud-native platform that connects to The Clearing House, Fedwire, ACH, and FedNow, credit unions can modernize without overhauling legacy infrastructure. Learn more at Alacriti.com.
In this season, Jill and I will have conversations centered around leadership, credit unions, and living our best lives. We will have some of the most respected leaders from around credit unions who we are grateful to call friends join us in the discussion from time to time too.
In this episode, we are joined by Greg Michlig, CUInsight’s very own CEO, who joins us to talk about the power of paradox. Leadership, after all, isn’t always about having the answers. Leadership is a practice of holding tension and of living in the in-between, and we talk about the power and challenge of paradox in leadership. What does it look like to lead with both confidence and humility, to show strength while also admitting to what you don’t know?
Greg brings some personal stories and honest reflections that make you want to follow him, not because he claims to have all the answers but because he knows how to ask the right questions. We explore what it means to lead in uncertain times without pretending to be certain, and how the best leaders learn to embrace complexity rather than run from it.
We also get personal when we share how reframing the idea of “being right” vs. “getting it right” can change how we show up, and we reflect on the uncomfortable (and sometimes hilarious) experience of feeling like an imposter and a winner… at the exact same time!
If you have ever felt the pressure to perform, to decide fast, or to prove yourself worthy of your title, this episode offers something better than advice: a breath of honesty, a few good questions, and some encouragement to lead like a real human, and we encourage you to listen in!
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